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Post by local32 on Mar 2, 2016 16:00:23 GMT
Like a post i saw about protection vest if i have to ware a vest i want a pistol on me.
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Post by jstagner on Mar 3, 2016 3:00:23 GMT
I'm not sure how I feel about carrying a deadly weapon while on duty. What would be the restrictions to that. Who would be able to carry, why and when would you draw your weapon and if you draw would you fire? I'm not sure 80% of the fire and ems community would have the brains enough not just to shoot someone. That's why I suggested in my last post about maybe carrying mace or a taser. Less leathel. Yes I get there is training to that also but someone shouldn't die if you need to deploy either.
On fire side what would you do with your weapon when you go on a structure fire and go interior? On both fire and ems what would you do with your weapon if you need to go inside a school, post office, a prison if your aganecy covers one.
There is more to think about than just saying all the sudden yes I'm gonna carry. And I'm sure there are people out there who have their ccw that carry while on the job and no one knows. Me myself leave mine at home locked away when I'm at work or doing the volunteer thing. But that's just me.
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rob
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Post by rob on Mar 10, 2016 15:33:41 GMT
I'm not sure if a municipality would allow Fire and EMS personnel to carry a weapon. if they did allow it, I'm sure there would be some type of training/certification required. For example they may be required to go through Peace Officer training.
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Post by jules on Mar 12, 2016 21:38:55 GMT
It'll never happen. The way the gun laws are now and with the liability associated with carrying a gun, no agency is going to want that sort of responsibility hanging over their heads. There are way too many factors to consider that can go wrong if ems is carrying a firearm when dealing with combative patients, psych patients, or even just going to a call and having someone see it on the personnel and looking for it as an opportunity to "obtain a gun" (if you will). I could go on and on, but you get the point. It could turn bad REAL FAST. It's just not a good idea.
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Post by tommy2 on Mar 14, 2016 15:10:33 GMT
Well it is up to the AHJ you belong to if you have a valid permit to carry like that I believe.
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Post by azumpano on Mar 16, 2016 23:59:40 GMT
I can't see this as being necessary. Overkill on so many levels.
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Post by jgrube on Mar 19, 2016 19:09:43 GMT
It is a AHJ issue but it is still law enforcement to get scene safe.
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Post by ctullar on Apr 7, 2016 0:26:37 GMT
I think if EMS providers start carrying firearms someone is going to get hurt.
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Msica
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Post by Msica on Apr 10, 2016 22:23:30 GMT
Its a safety issue being in the back of a small ambulance with a firearm. I feel that it would be hard to keep good security of the weapon while your trying to treat the patient.
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Post by mreinemann on Apr 19, 2016 19:25:02 GMT
I do think it would end up being overkill. In my own mind, I separate "medical professional" from any individual carrying a firearm very distinctly. It's a good point, jules, that there are too many opportunities for it to go wrong. I also think the education required for any EMS provider to carry while on the job, licensed before beginning work on an ambulance or not, would be extensive. Regarding personal safety in general, both agencies that I work for usually have security or police present during EMS calls, at least to initially clear the scene. For anyone who works for an agency without that kind of close relationship with police, have you ever felt that there is a need for more extensive protection than the current methods in place?
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Post by mmurphy on Apr 23, 2016 1:06:27 GMT
I don't think that carrying a firearm (or anyone in my crew carrying a firearm) would make me feel any safer on the job. I don't know that I would be able to inflict injury on someone else (even in a life-threatening situation) if my job was to provide care.
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